No, that's understandable. I don't think there's one infallible way to communicate these kinds of ideas, and it's very hard to talk about them to people who don't agree because of this contamination mindset.
I don't know who porpentine is, though I recall you mentioning her before. Unfortunately, I think it's not possible to find someone, regardless of personal history, who could avoid being labelled a predator by some of these people.
Sometimes it's simply impossible to convince some people that they're mistaken. And yeah, certainly that's not helped by people (often men) who use sex positivity as a smokescreen for rape and sexual abuse.
I've seen a number of posts expressing this specific kind of sentiment about sex workers being a special case but having these really conservative viewpoints on what the right way to have or think about sex is. There's surely a lot I haven't seen as well. I think it's probably possible to talk to some of them, though I wouldn't know if that is true for whatever particular people you have in mind. Also I can understand feeling disillusioned with the idea of persuading people of this kind of thing, and certainly I hesitate to talk directly to anyone who has expressed these kinds of sentiments, because I've seen the vicious kinds of things some people do. That applies to a lot of things, actually, but especially this topic in particular.
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Date: 2018-12-28 08:07 am (UTC)I don't know who porpentine is, though I recall you mentioning her before. Unfortunately, I think it's not possible to find someone, regardless of personal history, who could avoid being labelled a predator by some of these people.
Sometimes it's simply impossible to convince some people that they're mistaken. And yeah, certainly that's not helped by people (often men) who use sex positivity as a smokescreen for rape and sexual abuse.
I've seen a number of posts expressing this specific kind of sentiment about sex workers being a special case but having these really conservative viewpoints on what the right way to have or think about sex is. There's surely a lot I haven't seen as well. I think it's probably possible to talk to some of them, though I wouldn't know if that is true for whatever particular people you have in mind. Also I can understand feeling disillusioned with the idea of persuading people of this kind of thing, and certainly I hesitate to talk directly to anyone who has expressed these kinds of sentiments, because I've seen the vicious kinds of things some people do. That applies to a lot of things, actually, but especially this topic in particular.