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The Sith are kind of inherently edgy, but that doesn't mean that all the Sith are edgy to the same degree. So, time to rate them by how much they exemplify the Sith trait of edginess. For this I will be using my very scientific Edge Factor metric. So let's get started:

Darth Sidious: 6/10. Not a maximally edgelord aesthetic. Spends much of his life pretending to be an inoccuous good guy, which is diabolical but not edgy. Also by the time his aesthetic becomes more edgy, he's well established as an authority figure, which is not a particularly edgy role. Edgelords are more about tragic rebellion than ruling: so in this respect Sidious is a victim of his own success. All of *his* rebellions were successful, which *is* tragic, but not for him.

Darth Tyrannus: 4/10. Look, cut him some slack, he's not used to this Sith stuff. Still, he does have that tragic rebellion thing going for him re: the Jedi and Yoda.

Darth Plagueis: 5/10. Leave him alone, he just wants to do his evil science. Scalpels are edgy, right? Anyway surely he can just delegate the edginess to his apprentice? He wants to get back to his experiments. Little too much authority for the necessary rebelliousness, and takes *forever* to rebel against Tenebrous, though he does try to (unsuccessfully) end the rule of two.

Darth Maul: 10/10. Someone understood the assignment. Classy all black attire. Single earring. Double-bladed lightsaber. Rebels against Sidious multiple times, but never vanquishes him. Dies tragically trying to get revenge. Maximum edge.

Darth Vader: 8/10. Solid edge aesthetic and history of tragic rebellion, but gets points deducted for position of authority in the Empire.

Darth Bane: 8/10. A little too successful so gets a deduction for that, but the aesthetic and rebellion are *off the charts*. Guy rebelled against his father, the Jedi, *and* the Sith. Not to mention the face tattoos and invincibility beetles have incredible edge energy.

Darth Zannah: 8/10. Again, too successful for maximum edge, but solid aesthetic with the face tattoos, plenty of rebellion, and a tragic willingness to sacrifice her closest relative for her ambitions all makes her Edge Factor competitive.
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How many gigawatts do you think unlimited power produces? Can Palpatine's force lightning be used to operate a power plant? Could you plug him into a spaceship and use him as a battery?
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Watched the latter part of Revenge of the Sith.

Wow, There are so many scenes I would have cut if I had been the one editing this film. Honestly it drags in quite a few places and it would flow a lot more smoothly if some of the excess were cut. I'm thinking that a lot of the stuff I didn't remember being in the film anyway could just be cut.

I'd also add some of the stuff that was originally cut back in, especially the stuff with Padme. I think some of the scenes contradict other parts of the film, so I'd have to consider how to handle that, but I'll bet some of that could be remedied through editing, too. I wonder if I could even change the events of the film a bit that way? I'll bet I could.

And it would probably still be shorter.
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The audience for Heart of Shadow is people who like redemption stories. This is the big one in terms of audience requirements here: if a person hates redemption stories, this is probably not the story for them. A lot of the other stuff in this story is incidental and could have been changed without significantly changing the story, but not the redemption part. It's not the same story without that.

Given the above, it's perhaps not surprising that the story is also very villain focused--this is a common thread in my stories. I love to write about villains.

Furthermore, while there are a lot of redemption stories in the Star Wars fandom, I believe the vast majority of them are focused on Darth Vader. It's also common for redemption stories to focus on the 'less evil' villains. 

This is not that kind of redemption story. This is focused on Palpatine and Plagueis. And they're the worst. The worst of the worst. That's the point. I don't feel like it's much of a redemption story if the villain is just misunderstood.

Lastly, to me redemption is about a character actually doing something to help repair the damage they've done and make the world a better place. It's not about being sad or mopey enough for their victims to forgive them. 

This story also has a Sidious/Talzin romance, so if a person doesn't like romance, that could potentially be an issue. It could also be an issue if the person is incredibly averse to that specific pairing for whatever reason. It's also kind of a rarepair (to my knowledge I am the only person particularly invested in this pairing), so I don't expect it to be an actual draw for most people.

Hmmmm...what else? This story does have quite a bit of...I guess you could call it humor, however, it is not intended to be a solely humorous story. It is also not intended to be a comedy or parody. Some scenes may be inappropriate for those averse to satire. Okay...maybe quite a few scenes.

You will encounter politics in this story, both of the specifically Star Wars variety and those referencing real life. You have been warned.

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Sometimes I just crave a character who expresses their enthusium for science with horrific science experiments. And that's why Darth Plagueis is one of my favorite characters.  No pretension of ethical integrity, just all of that starry-eyed fascination with discovering how things work while coldly stabbing people to death. I feel like if Plagueis had become Emperor, he'd be doing a weekly science show. Like one of those shows where the goal is clearly to educate young children and inculate them in the joys of science, but he starts each episode by, like, stabbing someone in heart or something. Then he's like 'Welcome, welcome, to another episode of Mysterious Biology! Today we'll examine this intriguing specimen's midichlorians as they slowly drain out of him. Can you say midi-clor-ians? They're the powerhouse of the cell...'
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Poll #29581 Palpatine's Speeder Repair: Expanded Version
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Chancellor Palpatine's speeder breaks down. Does he:

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1. have it towed to the nearest repair shop
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2. drag it into an alleyway and jumpstart it with Force lightning
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3. The way Palpatine repairs his speeder is indescribable
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4. Other
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Poll #29579 Palpatine's Speeder Repair
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Chancellor Palpatine's speeder breaks down. Does he:

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1. have it towed to the nearest repair shop
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2. drag it into an alleyway and jumpstart it with Force lightning
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It gives me great amusement to think that Palpatine didn't join the Sith in STEM club until relatively late in his life so his dynamic with Plagueis would have been something like this:

Plagueis: I will teach you the forbidden knowledge and we can commit atrocities together with science!

Palpatine: I'm totally onboard with the atrocities part but does it really have to involve so many equations?

Plagueis: Atrocities calculus and chemistry are not electives.

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(First published Mar 21, 2018 for Alien April)

Summary:
       

Plagueis and Palpatine lose their tiny Sith Apprentice during a vacation to Yavin IV, and now must search for him.

                 

Notes:

   

   

This is my first time writing a gift fic, so I hope that it is an acceptable one.  Just something I came up with that lives in its own little AU.  At 4,223 words, this is the shortest fanfic I've ever posted.  This is a complete short story with one goal:  finding a very tiny Maul.

                 

"How could he have vanished so quickly?!” Plagueis exclaimed in dismay.
 
 "He's got to be somewhere," Palpatine said, looking behind a tree.  "Why are children so small?!"
 
 Plagueis pulled up some scrub on the forest ground.  "I thought you were watching him!"
 
 "I was!  I looked away for three seconds and he somehow disappeared!"

"Maybe this is a manifestation of his latent Force powers," Plagueis said.  “Though enhanced speed does not usually manifest this early…”
 
"Maul," Palpatine called out in a singsong tone.  "I have this whole cake I made just for you! It's full of sugar and incredibly unhealthy!"
 

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Favorites

May. 16th, 2023 02:32 am
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Me: So of course I have favorites when it comes to the Sith.

Also me: And I love this one and this one and this one and also this one too...

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Palpatine is like if one of those supernatural serial killers from a slasher movie decided to go into politics. Star Wars is a horror story.

Which is why 'somehow Palpatine returned'. 

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I feel that a lot of Star Wars analysis is plagued by a really individualistic analysis that boils the morality of characters and institutions down to questions like 'did the Jedi treat Anakin badly' or 'Was Anakin not grateful enough to the Jedi' or 'was this one individual responsible for literally all the evil things that happened'. Like determining the morality of the Jedi or the Senate (the one with multiple people, not the Sith Lord) is all about how they behaved towards one person (or how one person behaved towards them) and not about how the political dynamic these groups were responsible for impacted civilization as a whole.

The analysis of the morality of the Jedi should also not hinge on whether or not the Sith were the good guys. The Sith were not the good guys. Even though I think the Jedi perpetuated great evil (for which the extended canon provides ample evidence) that doesn't mean I think they 'deserved' what happened to them. And even though I think the Senate was irreperably corrupt, that doesn't mean I think Palpatine improved matters by dissolving them. Palpatine didn't make the galaxy safer or more peaceful, but he also didn't have to exert much effort to obtain the result he wanted because the Senate was already corrupt, because the Jedi perpetuated an ideal of 'lawful goodness', an ideal that Palpatine was able to turn against them to have them serve his bidding, to turn them into their own executioners, as encapsulated so perfectly by his manipulation of Anakin, a manipulation that results in Anakin siding with the lawful (and thus good by the teachings of the Jedi) position of defending the Chancellor to ensure he has a fair trial. In defending a man he knows to be a Sith against illegality, just as the Jedi compromised their morality to defend the Republic and the Senate (both of them) against the illegal Outer Rim Separatist Alliance it had allowed corporate powers to exploit for untold generations--unless it is completely fine and democratic for corporations to have representatives in the Senate? Unless it is totally normal and okay to lead an army of literal slaves into battle?

Of course the main characters are central to the themes of the prequels. But I don't know how one gets anywhere useful without being able to see those characters not only as characters, but as allegories of the failings of institutions as a whole, and to see the institutions not just as a few characters whose actions one judges either positively or negatively depending on their personal conduct towards other characters, but as a larger whole made up of not just good or bad individuals, but of laws and culture and philosophy and behavior that affects society as a whole.
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I once heard about there being a discarded idea for the original trilogy that the Emperor wasn't evil and it was actually just like, his advisors and and such who were evil (and Darth Vader, obviously).

Now, I think this would have been a terrible idea, and substantially worse than what Lucas actually ended up going with, but it gave me an idea that does interest me.

What if Palpatine was exactly the same, but if, because of the enormously positive propagranda for him during the Clone Wars, and because he had and has a lot of charisma, there were people who thought that he was actually a good guy. Like "oh, Palpatine's the best leader we ever had, such a good and brave man--this Empire business must all be Mas Amedda's fault" or something like that.

Obviously people like Obi-Wan and Yoda would know, but very few other people would have.  Obi-Wan's message doesn't even explain why the Republic became the Empire, so it's possible that even some Jedi might not have worked out that it was Palpatine himself who had it in for them, and not someone else who was advising him.  It might even be that some of the Jedi who became  Inquisitors came to him willingly because they thought they could fix things if they 'rescued' him from the Sith who must be holding him hostage or something.  It seems that not many people knew that Darth Vader was Anakin Skywalker, or that Palpatine was a Sith himself.  Even after he offed the Jedi, Palpatine seemed to prefer to perpetuate the subterfuge that he was just an ordinary guy and not a Sith Lord.  So only select people in the Empire would likely know the truth.

I just think that could be an interesting twist, for example if some of the Neo-Republicans in the Rebellion think they can fix the issue by appealing to Palpatine and it's the Separatists in the secret Rebel meeting who have to be like, no, that sounds like the worst idea ever.  Or what if Luthen had to be like "Oh, yet another Rebel cell that wants to try to 'rescue' the Emperor again.  Can I afford to tell them that won't work?"

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I keep thinking about how I will force Plagueis and Qui-Gon to complete a group project together in my story.  This is very important.  I've always been disappointed that the only time they meet in any Star Wars media is that really short scene in the Darth Plagueis novel.  I just have to do something about the fact that Plagueis is like some simultaneous narrative foil and mirror to Qui-Gon what with the whole immortality thing, emphasis on the Living Force, and opposing their own Order in some manner, but just in these very diametrically different ways.
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The Darth Plagueis novel gives a lot of background on the Sith, and one detail we learn from it is how Darth Maul becomes a Sith.  And how that happens is that his mother Kycina gives him away to Palpatine as an infant.  Here's the scene in the novel where this is explained:

“Clearly I am not, as I suspect you have already intuited. But you still haven’t answered my question. Why are trying to rid yourself of the infant?”
“To spare the one for the sake of the other,” she said after a moment. “Half a clan pair, this one is. And I want one to live freely, since the other can’t.”
“Who poses the threat?”
“Talzin is her name.”
“Who is Talzin?”
“The Nightsister Mother.”
Palpatine filed the information away. “Where is the infant’s father?”
“Dead—by tradition.”
He snorted. “Will the infant not be missed?”
“Talzin knows only of the one, not the other.”
“You delude yourself.”
Gently, she pushed the shoulder bag toward him. “Then take him. Please.”
“What would I do with him?”
“This one is strong in the Force. In the right hands, he can become a powerful asset.”
“Servitude of a different sort.”
She ignored the remark. “Take him. Save him.”
Palpatine regarded the newborn again. “Have you named him?”
“Maul, he is called.”

Of course Palpatine is the worst parent ever, so Maul never really gets the life his mother wanted for him.  Maul is unusual in that he's the only known Rule of Two Sith who was explicitly raised to be one from infancy.  Which is a pretty horrific childhood to imagine.  This seems like a pretty tragic situation to me, because it sounds like either way his life was going to be pretty awful.  

One thing I noticed reading this over again is that Maul is supposed to be half of a clan pair.  So is that supposed to mean he has a twin?  Who knows?  That never comes up again in this novel.  I guess if you wanted to tie this into The Clone Wars continuity you could say that the twin was supposed to be Savage, though my understanding is that when that character was first conceived, he wasn't intended to have anything to do with Maul.  At the same time, given when this was written and the fact that Legends EU often tied in things from other stories, I'm guessing that probably was the intent.

Sith Style

Mar. 2nd, 2022 12:43 am
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I love that Sith clothing is both stylish and practical.  Black looks great AND it hides the bloodstains.
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We Sith are an unseen opposition, Tenebrous had told his young apprentice. A phantom menace. Where the Sith once wore armor, we now wear cloaks. But the Force works through us all the more powerfully in our invisibility. For the present, the more covert we remain, the more influence we can have. Our revenge will be achieved not through subjugation but by contagion.

--from the Darth Plagueis novel by James Luceno

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So, I just wanted to write down some thoughts I had relating to this brief passage in the Darth Plagueis novel:

Years would pass before Nome found Hego's mother, whom he had conscripted not as an apprentice-for she wasn't strong enough in the Force--but as a disciple...

I have a headcanon about Plagueis's mother, which is that she wasn't actually weak in the Force.  The Sith are just always trying to get the most powerful Force users they can find, so Tenebrous was just like 'what if apprentice like this one But Even More Powerful' and he was also  just specifically inclined to go the Build-A-Sith route.   So when he saw an opportunity he took it.  And that's why he had Plagueis created.   Because the Sith are just like that.  But if sadly unnamed mother muun was really that weak in the Force, I don't think she would have been accepted as any kind of Sith, apprentice or not, to begin with.  If we look at the sheer number of apprentice candidates Venemis had stored on his computer (whom Plagueis subsequently offed), it seems that the Sith have their ways of finding other powerful Force users even when they're not Jedi.  This makes sense because otherwise they'd have trouble keeping their Limited Edition Baneite Sith line going, especially seeing as since most of them actually don't appear to be fallen Jedi, so they must be finding these non-Jedi Force users somehow.

The Sith probably also have a higher cutoff than the Jedi for what they consider 'not very powerful' since there are so few of them so every individual is kind of expected to be ridiculously powerful.  And if we look at Palpatine, who ended up choosing a Jedi who was also The Most Powerful Force User Alive for his apprentice, we notice that in canon he had little interest in turning Obi-Wan, who was considered quite powerful as Jedi went (in contrast to Dooku, who also had clear personal reasons for his preference).

Which brings me to my headcanon that Plagueis's mother was about as powerful as Obi-Wan Kenobi.  Of course I have no textual evidence for this, but there's also nothing in the text that explicitly disproves it, and as I've explained above, a lot of reasons to think that this is also not inconsistent with the canon either.

I might end up using this idea in one or more of my stories in some way, so I wanted to write it down.  I also don't think it's very spoilery, so I'm not particularly averse to revealing it in advance.

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I finished the latest Heart of Shadow chapter I've been working on!

Name: Ch 21: Rendezvous at Kalee

Publish Date: Thu Dec 9, 2021

Words in Chapter: 6255

Summary: Plagueis spends some quality time with Qui-Gon and Dooku!   He's very excited to meet with these two, even if they don't exactly share his enthusiasm...

AO3 link: https://archiveofourown.org/works/10944309/chapters/88757734

ffnet link: https://fanfiction.net/s/12494509/21/
 

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I have finished the 20th Chapter of Heart of Shadow, my Palpatine redemption fic Darth Plagueis novel AU!

Rating: Teen

Chapter Title: The Discreet Charms of Domesticity

Chapter Summary: Palpatine discusses real estate with Nightsisters and is commed by Plagueis.  Palpatine visits a caf shop, but he isn't there for the caf.

AO3 Link:  https://archiveofourown.org/works/10944309/chapters/86990968

FFNET Link: https://m.fanfiction.net/s/12494509/20/

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