Aug. 27th, 2020

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I think there is purpose in signalling one's beliefs for its own sake,  but I also think that the extent to which this permeates a lot of online  conversations really is a waste.  There's just only so much value in  communicating 'I believe X' in and of itself.  It's helpful because it  can help you find like-minded people and it can be reassuring to people,  but I think it's important not to convince oneself that it's a purely  good thing.  It's good to the extent that the people you associate with  don't have such glaring disagreements with you that you end up feeling  like you just can't connect with them on the important matters of life,  or collaborate with them on any useful endeavor.  It's good to the  extent that you can avoid pointless and draining debates.

But a  lot of stuff is just--well, it's just people kind of smugly patting  themselves and their friends on the back for having the right beliefs  and I just don't think that's a mindset that's very conducive to  worthwhile progress in any area at all.  Because we need to discover  flaws in our beliefs and gaps in our understanding of the world if we  want to make the highest impact positive change on that world that we  possibly can.  To me the ideal is being able to discuss things with  friends in ways that allow both parties to increase each other's  understanding of the world and be more effective at whatever it is we  are trying to do.  And so to do that, it has to be possible to discuss  disagreements, even over important things, without it being a  friend-ending experience.  In practice--this is usually impossible, or  so seemingly perilous and fraught that a person might simply feel unable  to deal with the possible repurcussions.  You can't just go out to the  store and buy new friends, after all.  Well, most of us can't anyway.

I  guess what I'm trying to get at here is that a lot of 'political  discussion' actually just seems like worthless feel-good fluff,  sometimes even so insistent on lockstep agreement that it becomes  cultlike, whether or not there's any kind of commonly recognized  'religion' behind it.  And before anyone starts thinking of that kind of  problem exclusively in groups whose politics they oppose, I want to say  that I think this can happen with any belief-set, even with whatever  philosophy or beliefs are ultimately 'good' in this world (good in  quotes here because what does it all mean, anyway, haha).  What I'm  saying is, I don't think that we should necessarily assume that a.) a  person who has 'good' beliefs about some things will have 'good' beliefs  about others, and b.) a person having 'good' beliefs is necessarily  doing anything valuable with that 'goodness' or that it's not possible  for them to even work against their own priorities.

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