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I have to admit, I don't really understand the sentiment of 'oh, someone's given me a nasty comment on my fanfic, so now I'll stop writing to punish them'.  Like, I always assume they do that either a.) because I've legitimately said something they view as unsavory in my story and they've actually done the emotional work to reach out and explain that to me or b.) they're being nasty because they want me to stop writing, or c.) both. 

So my reaction to possibility a is to first just try to reflect on the criticisms I've been given to see if they contain anything that may reveal genuine insights into my own flaws (either as a person or a writer) or if they're just superficial preference criticisms which I can ignore or the response to a fundamental value difference between me and the reader. Now, I don't expect all writers have to be willing to reflect on their work in that way, but as a matter of politeness, if one doesn't want that kind of criticism, they should probably mention that in their profile and/or author's notes.  And if one *does* want that kind of criticism, one should mention that in one or more of those places as well.  People aren't mindreaders, and not every writer wants the same kinds of criticisms.   And so I view writers who say 'no concrit' as taking the correct approach as much as those who say 'I only want you to tell me everything you hate' (and everything in between--personally I'm not set on either of those types of critique, but I explain in my profile what I do want as clearly as I can manage).  And so if one is receiving criticism they don't like, they might first consider whether they are telling the reader what they want in the first place.

As for b, if they want me to stop writing, and I stop writing, then I'm...giving them what they want.  And I just really don't see how that's going to hurt them.  If anything, I'd expect such a person to celebrate.  So my actions would essentially be rewarding people who hate me while punishing people who actually like me or my work.  And that just makes no sense to me.

Lastly, if it's both, well, I'm not going to stop writing, but I will take some time to see if the comment has anything of substance to say.  Even if I don't agree with the criticism, a criticism that gives a reason behind it can be worthwhile to consider.  And just because I may not ever want to interact with the person doesn't mean they have nothing valuable to say (although of course that may be the case as well).

So, anyway, that's some of my thoughts on comments and criticism. 
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Trying to figure out that right balance of not repressing any opinions I may have simply to avoid confrontation with others but also not overdoing my criticisms and thus making both my and everyone else's life around me miserable is...difficult.  Like, I've tried to be just the tiniest bit more open about my thoughts (including positive thoughts, but criticisms are the hardest for me, so I have had to put the most effort into that) and I definitely do feel this is the much better approach overall despite the extra stress it causes in me because it reduces unknowns.  Not knowing how someone is going to react to something really is a terrible feeling, but at the same time, someone reacting badly to something is ALSO a terrible feeling.

Like, I don't hold back on criticisms because I think I'm always wrong or something, I hold back on them because I hate when you go to the effort to think about something and try to express it as best you can, and then the other person just proceeds to ignore everything you just said and digs in even harder on their original position.  Like I will always argue that these things need to be supported with facts and logic, but that's why it's important to acknowledge what the other person actually says when you disagree with their position.  Doing otherwise is strawmanning them.  And because I see that happen to people who are more outspoken than me all the time, it just seems like something that everyone hates when it happens to them, but that few bother to not do to others.

I just have to deal with it, though, if I want to improve, because that's just how things are.  If someone chooses not to engage with what I say, that's frustrating, but it's also not always the case just because someone disagrees with me, even if it can sometimes feel that way.  And because it is such a common thing, it's better if I don't get as bothered by it.  Like obviously I'm never going to like being totally dismissed and ignored, but that's what will happen to my ideas anyway if they don't get expressed, so...I may as well try to fix the issue on my end at least.  And I do think I'm getting better at dealing with this sort of disappointment.

I do think this is also important because I need to do this if I am to express myself better and if I'm to understand other people better.  I just hate when I feel like I'm expressing something badly lol.
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I really want to be better at making friends. One conundrum I have is that the easiest way to do that is to focus on discussing things you both already agree with.  It's naturally easier to coordinate and work together on those things, and most of what I've seen of actual healthy interaction falls into this category.  The problem is that I also feel it encourages stasis in attitudes and behaviors, and that it encourages, at best, looking the other way when your friend does something wrong rather than actually intervening.  And at worst it leads to defending friends over others regardless of whether those friends are at fault or how much harm they have done.  and I don't think that's overall a good thing.  I think a lot of people rightfully criticize privileging friends in these ways when they see this behavior in others, but then perpetuate these things themselves to keep their own friendships running smoothly.  And if a standard is one that we only hold other people to, but not ourselves, then it's not a very useful standard at all.  At the same time, I think there's a very real issue with the way conflicts of this sort are usually handled--like I think there's a reason that most people reserve this kind of direct criticism only for strangers or ex- or soon to be ex-friends.  But I feel like there has to be a constructive way to handle these kinds of disagreements, without choosing either to ignore these issues or to antagonize all of one's friends into becoming ex-friends.  I just don't know what that would be, hence why I am reluctant to criticize people I'd like to continue spending time around (and also because I dislike confrontation to begin with).

But I will say I'd like to be able to better give and receive these kinds of criticisms and have everyone involved feel that they're being treated fairly.  I mean part of it is that I don't want to have to choose between having values and having friends, but the other part of it is that I know I'm not perfect either and if people felt more comfortable criticizing me, then that could help me to understand their positions better and adopt better values myself.  I think part of the problem is the tendency to think of people as good or bad people rather than thinking of them as holding various positions, some of which may be good, others of which may be bad *in the same person*.  It's just like knowledge.  It isn't the case usually that one person is more knowledgeable than another about every conceivable thing, but rather that both people know some things that the other person doesn't.  Though I can understand the reasoning behind it, I think the teacher-student paradigm presents a false hierachy, because it's not that one person is an active teacher of another while the other passively absorbs information, but that we all have the capability to both teach and learn from each other.  And that's why I wish I knew better strategies for criticizing people and for helping other people feel more comfortable with constructively criticizing me.  Because I think we all have things we can teach each other about how to be better people.

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Jul. 6th, 2019 03:37 pm
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To really be able to contribute well to society, people have to be able to both give and receive criticism.  No one is always right, nor are they always wrong.  Withholding good ideas for fear of their reception or being unwilling to accept valid criticisms both reduce our ability to improve a world that desperately needs improving.  I'd like to be better at handling both of these things, and I have maybe improved a small amount.  But I really don't think I've improved enough.

I mean, I try to always listen to criticisms, even when they're given harshly, and try to ask myself if the criticism has any validity.  Though I ignore simple insults, because those aren't the same as criticisms.  Some criticisms are mean-spirited, but do still contain useful information about what the person thinks is being done wrong, as opposed to insults, which are just about making you feel bad and not really addressing any wrongdoing.  One problem I have is I don't necessarily know how to get clarification of people's criticisms, even if I think I would be willing to talk with them directly.  Of course I don't necessarily always have to talk to someone directly to know what arguments exist for a given criticism, because much has been written online.  However, I think I perhaps rely on this indirect method too much, though I also want to avoid the issue some have where they rely too much on expecting others to explain and prove every little thing to them.  Sometimes direct clarification is necessary, however, especially in cases where the criticism has been fundamentally misunderstood. I'm not used to asking such questions of people, though, and it opens up the possibility of unpleasant confrontation. Sometimes I force myself to do it anyway, but I don't feel like that has necessarily done much to make me better at it.  Obviously, the most important thing is to distinguish between correct and incorrect criticisms, and while I'll never be able to do that perfectly I must ask myself what I can do to improve.

I also want to improve how I give criticisms.  In general, I prefer to be firm but not aggressive about my criticisms.  At the same time, it's fair for people to criticize my criticisms in return, but I don't feel that I'm always good at dealing with that.  I also prefer to avoid criticizing people but I also think this is a character flaw of mine, because I am placing my and other's personal comfort over principled ethics.  On the other hand I'm obviously not right about everything, because no one is, so sometimes that probably is ideal. Still, I kind of doubt that I'm wrong about everything either.  At the same time, I also think that sometimes I'm not the best person to give a certain criticism, even if the criticism is a legitimate one.  But part of the reason for that is that my communication skills in this area aren't the best developed because I try to avoid doing it.

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